Star Wars Vs Star Trek

[cloudcity]

I know this is way off topic but I couldn't resist. It's a question that has plagued mankind for over a quarter of a century.


So which is best and why?


Also, if you have anything to say on either of these two then here is the place.


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[Miss_Take]

-- star wars for sure.

1. star trek is this neverending saga that plagued tv for too many years. how many generations does there have to be !!!

2. star wars had Ewoks. so furry. so cute.

3. C3PO - how funny and gay was that droid?

4. luke skywalker is a babe. princess lea was a hottie.

5. in my opinion, star trek was just plain boring.

6. light sabres are the ultimate weapon.

[infamous]

for true zealotic popularity you cant go far wrong than star trek.
for effect jiggery pokery you cant fault star wars.. and the trench run scenes are still some of the most exciting bits of cinema ever made....

but i dunno... modern startrek gets ass fucked by old starwars
and old startrek makes the new starwars its bitch.. in my opinion so.. erm

ok!..

lets put it in this context.. if you was to stick starwars and star trek into a caldari death pit i think they would kill each other.. it'd be a draw ... too close a call.. but personally id go for star trek.

[infamous]

6. light sabres are the ultimate weapon.

didnt see that there miss lol.. yeah i wouldnt mind a lightsabre for cutting the sunday roast.. the tall shrub's.. creating a soft top for my car.. my next door neighbour... and it'd make a great table lamp.

but cmon!... photon torpedo's made the ULTIMATE noise when they were fired.. altogether now "PZZZUT!!!!"

[SSBF]

I vote for Star Wars. I thought it was so creative and clever the first time I saw it. Seemed fresh and new whereas Star Trek to me always felt old and already done. Just my humble opinion.....

[ZeppelinBaby]

Star Wars, without question. Star Trek: TNG was pretty damn good though.

[countryboy45629]

Star Wars wins hands down in my book. Star wars was always original and exciting, where star trek was usually corny and boring in my opinion. Star trek the new generation was a vast improvement over the old, but star wars would still win out.

[cloudcity]

-- star wars for sure.

Miss Take, I love you. ha ha

[cloudcity]

but i dunno... modern startrek gets ass fucked by old starwars
and old startrek makes the new starwars its bitch.. in my opinion so.. erm

Well said, never thought of it that way. Well done.

[cloudcity]

One word . . . . . Lightsabres.

How many people around the world pretend to play with phasers? And how many pretend to play with lightsabres?

[infamous]

dont forget yoda... probably the most popular foreigner in the known universe EVER.

and yeah true about the light sabre thing.. them little hand phaser things were shit

oh and that noise the tie fighter makes as it flys past.. eeeeeeuuuuuuuurrrr!!!.. so fucking cool!.... still a draw though ^^ lol.

[UnME69]

i reckon the new comming movies of Starwars and Startrek suck. They both dont have allot of room for story in it.

I enjoy looking at TOS, TNG and DS9 of Startrek and the 3 original first films of starwars more. Then the new ones of the Starwars sfeer, they suck man they dont have a story its so boreing, nice effects but nothing more. :huh:

Startrek even though might be a plague however i prefer looking startrek to Starwars since i love it but people have differences so its only naturally people also like different movies.

However these days i dont look much tv, cause its all lame. I did watch the Sixth Sence the other day, i reckon thats a movie we could talk about with having a good story even though it was blown up by Hollywood.

~ben

[ZeppelinBaby]

The original three Star Wars movies are definitely the best of all Star Trek and Star Wars stuff

[EvilHandyAndy]

Star Trek first aired April 14,1964 i think and ran for 25 years but did ya know in the pilot episoid spock,or Lenord Nemoy ,was cast as captin but they didnt think
(Gene Roddenbury) that he was beleveable as a captin,so they drop him one in rank,and gave him pointy ears and he became spock

[tanstaafl]

I Vote the Star Wars saga (including the expanded universe). Its the story of good vs evil. It encompases all 3 classical fiction plots. (bonus points if you can name them)

Star wreck is like a redneck/pikey adventure - a bunch of people floating around in a fancy winnebago looking to get into some trouble. Come on a vulcan neck massage what kind of shit is that.

For TNG fans: Will Wheaton is a real life computer geek.

[EvilHandyAndy]

i think star wars was done really well{both times} but then they had a much bigger bugget
did you know that the transporter pad in the first star trek became the lights over the transporter pad in tng?

[Cheeky Monkey]

I'll say Star Wars hands down. It's far better than Star Trek. There is more than a Star Trek too many with it's neverending variations in my opinion.

[tanstaafl]

Bump.

Who the fuck would give a starship to a bald man named JeanLuc?

[EvilHandyAndy]

That just cold loli like picard

[45lvr]

yep, gotta go with star wars. mainly because they made up all the special effects as they went....

[Darth Horny]

Star Wars of course.. But I'm a geek...Who would travel all the way from Norway just to get to a SW celebration?

[cloudcity]

Star Wars of course.. But I'm a geek...Who would travel all the way from Norway just to get to a SW celebration?

Wish I could afford that.

[cloudcity]

I look at it this way, When I look at episodes of Star Trek fromthe 80's & 90's I find them embarassing and sometimes painfull to watch. I don't get that with Star Wars.

Except for that scene in EpV where Luke & Leia kiss. Yuk!

[cloudcity]

If any of you are interested and have broadband, I have a (altered) video clip from EpIV that will make you laugh so hard you'll cry for a week. It's almost 2MB.

[tanstaafl]

Umm, I think that this might swing the vote towards star trek.

http://sexyfandom.com/index.php?s=trek&submit=Search

[cloudcity]

Er, thanks for that Tan, I think. God I hope there isn't one for Star Wars.

[cloudcity]

Er, thanks for that Tan, I think. God I hope there isn't one for Star Wars.

I've had a good look around and I can't find one. Plenty of really sick anime versions though.

[lostsouls]

Star Trek first aired April 14,1964 i think and ran for 25 years but did ya know in the pilot episoid spock,or Lenord Nemoy ,was cast as captin but they didnt think
(Gene Roddenbury) that he was beleveable as a captin,so they drop him one in rank,and gave him pointy ears and he became spock
not true. in the original pilot (the cage) Spock was in it, but not first officer, and certainly not captain. that rank was held by Captain Pike, played by Jeffery Hunter.

I will always hold star wars with esteem, and a fair amount of sentimentality, but when all is said and done, its a fantasy saga aimed at children. Star Trek, on the other hand is actual sci-fi, and has much more depth. its an ongoing thing, whereas star wars was a 3 (no w 6) movie thing.
i honestly don't see how one can justifiably compare them. its like comparing a beautiful woman's tits to tits of a monkey.
similar, but by no means in the same ball park.

[tanstaafl]

not true. in the original pilot (the cage) Spock was in it, but not first officer, and certainly not captain. that rank was held by Captain Pike, played by Jeffery Hunter.

i honestly don't see how one can justifiably compare them. its like comparing a beautiful woman's tits to tits of a monkey.
similar, but by no means in the same ball park.
I ought to ban you for being even geekier that I...I mean for monkey tits..Thats too close to "b34$+|4Li+y".

Nah just busting your chops. Welcome aboard.

[EvilHandyAndy]

not true. in the original pilot (the cage) Spock was in it, but not first officer, and certainly not captain. that rank was held by Captain Pike, played by Jeffery Hunter.

I will always hold star wars with esteem, and a fair amount of sentimentality, but when all is said and done, its a fantasy saga aimed at children. Star Trek, on the other hand is actual sci-fi, and has much more depth. its an ongoing thing, whereas star wars was a 3 (no w 6) movie thing.
i honestly don't see how one can justifiably compare them. its like comparing a beautiful woman's tits to tits of a monkey.
similar, but by no means in the same ball park.the cage was not the first one but good try it was just the first aired!

[UnME69]

Bump.

Who the fuck would give a starship to a bald man named JeanLuc?

Who would give a X-wing Fighter to a Red Squardron Pilot and forget to notice he will blow it up anyway? :P Mate dont trash talk Startrek nor Starwars. Its the ole battle going on between Treks and Starwars Fans. :P

They both are special caliber.... i reckon...

~ben

[cloudcity]

don't take it too seriously buddy. I'm like the biggest Star Wars fan in the UK and I love poking fun at it. Not as much fun a taking the piss out of Star Trek though. (too goody goody)

[UnME69]

don't take it too seriously buddy. I'm like the biggest Star Wars fan in the UK and I love poking fun at it. Not as much fun a taking the piss out of Star Trek though. (too goody goody)

lol, i wasnt being serious :P even though i sound like it, i might turn out to be a responsible parent one day. The horror :P Not before i climb mount Everest and did some (stuff) in my life :P.

[cloudcity]

I take my hat off to you, I'd rather climb Everest butt naked than be a parent so good luck with both.

Or should I say 'may the force be with you'

[UnME69]

I take my hat off to you, I'd rather climb Everest butt naked than be a parent so good luck with both.

Or should I say 'may the force be with you'

No Number 1, Bring this Piece of Junk i mean Starship to the Su... erm i me Bring it Home. Come on work you stupi..... I mean Engage!!!! :P

Ever heard of Seven Trek? :P Those a comics about ST and SW. There so LMFAO :P Youll Love em.

~ben

[cloudcity]

Seven Trek? I will check it out.

Has anyone seen Geordie Wars?

[Darth Horny]

I take my hat off to you, I'd rather climb Everest butt naked than be a parent so good luck with both.

Or should I say 'may the force be with you'
I'm a single dad to 2 wonderful boys and it's not thaaat bad... Or is it....? :grin:

[cloudcity]

166 days to go till the final installment of the Star Wars saga, and all the Trek fans finally realize their favourite franchise doesn't even come close.

[UnME69]

166 days to go till the final installment of the Star Wars saga, and all the Trek fans finally realize their favourite franchise doesn't even come close.

lol, i think most dont care :P besides i like the oldies of SW much better then the new saga's.

[EvilHandyAndy]

I am
i love to whats old become new again if its done well!
we could do with out them bringing back disco though lol

[cloudcity]

Everyone likes to jump on the bandwagon and bash the new trillogy. In twenty years time we'll be calling them classics too.

[cloudcity]

Five reasons you know you've watched too much Star Trek.

1. You tell the refridgerator to make you 'Tea, Earl Grey, Hot'

2. Every time someone breaks wind you yell 'hull breach on the lower descks'

3. You talk to your computer and expext it to answer.

4. You order a pizza in Klingon.

5. you know more about the 24th century than the 20th.

[Blackadder]

I'm afraid Starwars wins, hands down no contest.

I can't stand startrek, doesn't even look real!

I must confess to being a Dwarfer. Pure genius! Stuck 3 million years from earth, the last human alive! With a creature that evolved from a Cat, a Derranged Meccanoid, a Hologram and a Half witted computer with an IQ equal to that of 6,000 car park attendants!

[cloudcity]

A Star Wars fan, a dwarfer and a Blackadder fan . . . dude. Are you sure you're not me?

[Blackadder]

Pretty sure I'm not you though are you sure you're not me!!!

Sharing good tastes is one thing that binds all decent people. So long as you're not an Arsenal fan!!!!

[cloudcity]

Pretty sure I'm not you though are you sure you're not me!!!

Sharing good tastes is one thing that binds all decent people. So long as you're not an Arsenal fan!!!!

No I'm not, football/sporting alliegences mean very little to me.

[cloudcity]

should i attach a poll to this thread? Just a simple one I guess.

[SSBF]

should i attach a poll to this thread? Just a simple one I guess.
Yes please....YOUR pole...:)

[UnME69]

Five reasons you know you've watched too much Star Trek.

1. You tell the refridgerator to make you 'Tea, Earl Grey, Hot'

2. Every time someone breaks wind you yell 'hell breach on the lower descks'

3. You talk to your computer and expext it to answer.

4. You order a pizza in Klingon.

5. you know more about the 24th century than the 20th.

oh god those good! even for a trekkie i love em... :P

[youngbuck4afuck]

if star treck is soooo great how come they they have to keep making up new races? yeah that rite. shut up.

[hippychrome]

i like + respect my yorkshire companion pat from star trek, + he plays half-life b.t.w ;) but i preffer star Trek Voyager when they got deep in with the borg etc. + as far as I'm concerned ... Stuff all modern Star Wars, I liked the originals + the original ZX speccy games + in the arcades, but the rest of star wars SUKK. ( Except for my cool star wars screen saver with millinium falcum lol ). BUT I preffer LEXX + B5 anyway :p

[cloudcity]

I have a request.

If there are any UK or European Star Wars fans out there, please conatct me. I have details of a huge two day fan convention in the planning for 2005.

So far the details are still being worked out, but the website needs members and we can help get it up and running.

Thanks

[rushu04]

Star wars wins tbh loved the classic 3 films but the new 1s tell teh story of how anikin became darth vader and if u seen the trailer for episode 3 then ull be amazed how awsome the film will be army of wookies(which explains were chewbacca came from) how anikin became darth vader and the over throw of the republic so whoeva sed tehres no story line to the new starwars there pretty damn rong :) but im dissapointed at the trilogy dvd that put hayden christian in the return of the jedi then the orginal darth vader. + im from uk cloudcity post that info :)

[cloudcity]

"THE TOP 10 LINES YOU'LL NEVER HEAR ON STAR TREK: T.N.G....."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

10) Worf: Klingons do *not* play tiddlywinks!

9) Picard: It's too bad we don't live in an
enlightened, civilized era like they had in the
twentieth century.

8) Geordi: Did you hear Wesley almost got kicked out
of the academy again? They caught him smoking pot!

Data: (looks puzzled) Pot? (brightens) Ah. Marijuana
- a narcotic obtained from the hemp plant. Cannabis.
Weed. Mary Jane. Grass. Reefer. Panama red...

7) Troi (to someone she is counseling): You've
obviously mistaken me for someone who cares! Now
get out!

6) Worf: Ouch! I got a paper cut!

5) a Starfleet admiral: Don't worry about it, Picard,
there's plenty of other ships in your quadrant.

4) Riker: Not tonight - I have a headache.

3) Worf: Do we have to beam down right now? The
Smurfs are on subspace T.V.!

2) Geordi: We've modified the warp coils by reversing
the polarity of the inverse geometric phase integrator
and adding a broad-band neutrino flux generator to
the hyper-magnetic field controls.

Riker: What will that do?

Geordi: Not a damn thing, but it sure as hell
*sounds* impressive!

1) Picard: Oh, screw the hailing frequencies. Fire
all phasers!

[Blackadder]

Cloudcity, let me know the details, PM and I'll get back to you.

[sexkitty]

Star Wars of course! All I have to say is Master Yoda!

[cloudcity]

Star Wars of course! All I have to say is Master Yoda!

Mmmm, a turn on that is, yes.

[EvilHandyAndy]

Star Wars of course! All I have to say is Master Yoda!so i guess lil green guys doit for ya eh?
she probly had a thing for kermit also wait till i tell miss piggy!

[hippychrome]

LOL, do you know the rhym about kermit the frog + miss piggy? I learned it in my early teens + a lot of UK peeps should know this + I want U to finish it off lol.

Kermit the frog, has god a big nob
for messing about with miss piggy,
he shoved it up once,
he shoved it up twice,
+ now they have 3 little.....

[whistle_pig]

-- star war....for sure

[cloudcity]

So far, the voting is 11 for Star Wars and 4 for Star Trek.

And son't worry Andy, I'll forgive you for voting for Trek.

[sintrifuge]

K, I have to chime in here, albeit with much giggling. I have no love for any ST other than the original series and Wrath of Khan. That being said I still love Empire, but Jedi ruined SW for me long ago. I enjoyed some of the new SW films, but too much eye candy, not enough story. I am however looking forward to the next SW film, which has to be good 'cause it has to end dark. Unless Lucas's daughters ask for a happy ending with another wank ewok-style celebration. gag. I must say though that my better half is a TNG fan and does not share my fanboy leanings for Kirk et al. Hey she actually has a Star Trek female uniform, hmm, I smell a new thread!

[cloudcity]

Hey she actually has a Star Trek female uniform, hmm, I smell a new thread!

Damn good idea, can't wait to see that.

[cloudcity]

I must say though that my better half is a TNG fan and does not share my fanboy leanings for Kirk et al. Hey she actually has a Star Trek female uniform, hmm, I smell a new thread!

Now I have seen them I must say they are very good.
Permission to come aboard? (http://forum.pichunter.com/showthread.php?t=4683&page=8&pp=10)

[Hornball-Uk]

Ok.... ive thought about this long and hard...... I just cant decide, i like em both...... and im a bit of an info nut on both too, from Bomar Monks, Speaking Rodian and being able to play the Cantina Band on the piano.... to working knowledge of warp theory, Hysenburg Compensators, Lyssian Attackers, Asceton Assimilators and Zephram Chochraine.

VREEEEEOOOWWWwwwWWWW
*puts away lightsabre*
ZZZIZiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii PPP !

But now heres the bit where it all gets wierd..... Ive done work for Dave and Margret (Prowse), as clients, and im in reasonable touch with Patrick Stewart since he lives relatively near me when he's performing in Leeds :)

Now heres where it gets complex....

I know the cast of Red Dwarf, even danced on stage with Danny Jules to "Tongue Tied".... I know J M Strazinsky of Babylon 5 fame, and ive snogged Nicola Bryant (Peri from Dr Who)....

I DO GET AROUND....

I sent in a design for the Episode 1 star wars poster, direct to george, i sadly never got a reply, but its astounding how close the final poster was to my original concept art with the very few available images of the time.

[cloudcity]

Well done Hornball

I knew there was something about you I liked. Nice one.

[Hornball-Uk]

LOL .... I like all scifi Cloud - its a great distraction from real life....... same news, different names (to quote Reinheart from Disney's "Black Hole").

[cloudcity]

On the UK web pages of MSN there is a voting section where you can pick your favourite from many catagories. Write now they are pitting Star Trek vs Star Wars and Wars has the lead.

21,861 to 7469

Says it all really.

We're not allowed to post links here, but anyone even remotely interested in this mini debate should pm me and I'll send you the link.

[Hornball-Uk]

I think theres a bias here though, Star Wars in its true sense has never been a Tv show (barring the droids cartoon and the appauling ewoks show); where as ST has been through many incarnations, from Kirk, through Picard, Sisco and Janeway... Tv shows all plus Movies ! That may change however as a Staw Wars tv show is on the books for a 2006 airing. Expect some kind of official announcement from Lucas after the Premiere of Episode 3 this May.

[sintrifuge]

I find it hard to compare the two. They're told in two totally different ways. one is a serial action drama, the other a mythological epic. It's like comparing political thriller novels to greek mythology. different scales. both awesome though. but what tips the vote to ST for me though is nostalgia. Trek was there every day for me as a child. where as Star Wars was more of a spectacular event as a child. loved both to death, but Trek is like my favorite blanket. awwwwwwww.

[Hornball-Uk]

True, Kirk was my Tv father figure (yes i cried when they killed im off in Generations..... but then, i cried when they killed off Data in Nemesis too - so there ya go !)

[cloudcity]

horn, I cried at the end of Nemisis too. And sin, you got it right I'd say. SW is pretty epic, nice summing up.

[sintrifuge]

Thanks CC. I too enjoy most sci-fi. I'll check just about everything new out at least once. I was pretty envious when you mentioned you were watching the Aliens box set.

Horny, I was raised by television as well, lol. and sci-fi ruled my world. And you guys have plenty of great sci-fi over there as well. I remember as kid being glued to the set watching Dr.Who, Tripods and Blakes 7. I can only imagine all the great programs that never made it to the U.S.

[Hornball-Uk]

If you want to see a truely modern british scifi that knocks the spots off everything else...... try the newly released DVD's of RED DWARF (region 1). You wont regret it... its an 8 series comedy space opera :)

Dr Who sucked (unless Davros was on the show, thats was definitely a "behind the sofa" moment. Tripods was MONUMENTAL, even the theme tune still haunts me..... revolutionary stuff for the early 80's. Blakes 7 - a fun but bleak look at space featuring a spaceborne tripple head vibrator run by a 70's dancefloor hung on the wall and a small icecube with an attitude :)

[infamous]

heh.. great description of blakes 7 that... i used to love the puppet shows the most.. terrahawks springs straight to mind.. do you remember the creature "mash"? ... scary scary bastard.. he used to freak me out when i was little.. but i always loved the colonel.. tripods.. totally agree even now when i watch it.. it makes me shudder such a great great series.. and to see them tripods again in hl2 was just eeire.. i think it was inspired to put them in cos for fear factor alone they ruled.

red dwarf.. i totally 2nd horns opinion.. if you aint seen it.. find it.. well worth a look one heck of a funny series... and it coined the oft used cuss "you smeg head".

[Hornball-Uk]

Be careful with "smeg" and americans Infy.... they dont think about the danish freezer unit brand, rather they think "smegma under the head (rim) of the penis"....

[sintrifuge]

hey Horny and Infy, thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely check Red Dwarf out. I am aware of it and had friends who dug it, I just never caught it when it was on here. what other great sci-fi, heck even non-sci-fi Brit tv should I check out?

[cloudcity]

Red Dwarf is not only the best sci-fi show ever made it's the best - period. I too found Dr Who dull, especially when Tom Baker left. Tripods was cool as I was a teenager at the time and Blakes 7 was for me Star Wars on tv.

Red Dwarf didn't translate well in the US, it got all twisted and changed so much it was unrecognisable. Shame. The DVDs are the pride of my (rather extensive) collection.

[Hornball-Uk]

Ive seen the US pilot for their version... it royally sucked, despite Mr Llewellyn (Kryten from the BBC original) being in it - it was subsequently cancelled. The original show took a stab at it too during season (4) i think... when the crew woke up in memory pods, and it was explained they could go back to their normal lives because they had lost the RED DWARF game.... a viewfinder outside the complex parodied the USA version. Course, a quick blast of lithium carbonate later, and they were all ok.......

Dwayne Dibley !!

[cloudcity]

Yopu're talking about "Back To Reality", the best episode they ever made I'd say. I'm a real fan and at the time I genuinely believed this is it, it's the end.

(and why does my jacket smell like an elderly yak has used it as a latrine?)

[Hornball-Uk]

Yeah thats the one - and odly enough, the only show im aware of that started with THE END !!

[cloudcity]

Sorry horn, I gotta call it a night, be back in the morning.

Or should I say: Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.

[Hornball-Uk]

HAHAHAHA nice 1 Ace - cya then, have a good night man !!

[HornyToad]

DR. Who wasn't to bad when Tom Baker was on it. Did any of you ever watch Space Rangers? The pilot Jo Jo could fly me anytime!

What does everybody think about the new Battelstar Galacta? It seems to me to be a collection of very wel used & worn plots re writen to place them in a familiar setting. Not that the original was one of scifi's greatest

[sintrifuge]

Please excuse my ignorance, but there was an american version of Red Dwarf? I am only familiar with a British series that was on PBS in the 80's. Is that the same one?

HornyToad, I too enjoyed Dr.Who. Unfortunately after Peter Davidson, what we got was sporadic at best. So I basically stopped watching after a few episodes of Collin Baker.

I don't know Space Rangers, I saw the Galactica mini-series from last year, and thought it was okay, but I think I was too heartbroken to give it a fair chance. I was a huge fan of the original series. and no it was by no means great, but for an 8 yr old it was the shit! I haven't watched the current Galactica yet. all I've heard are rave reviews. So I guess I should give it a shot.

[Hornball-Uk]

Space Rangers, interesting show, only topped in quality by Captain Zep Space Detective lol ....

[Hornball-Uk]

I bought the new galactica on DVD - its now a coffee mat... what a complete waste of money....

Red Dwarf USA, no there was 1 pilot made, it never got beyond that, it just died on its feet.... so commercially you can only get the Uk Red Dwarf. I think ive got the pilot floating around like a wet turd on one of my dire collection cd's lol...

Dr Who was ok through Tom Baker, Peter Davidson and Colin Baker - but once that stupid fucknut comedian Sylvester McCoy got a hold if it, it also died a death - fortunately resurected in the form of a rather good Tv Movie recently.. and.. i believe a 2nd one is in the works.

[cloudcity]

Yep, the new Dr Who is on the BBC in April this year.

I don't remember Space Rangers at all for some reason, when was it on?

And despite being a big fan of the original I think the new Galactica is the best thing on tv for many years.

There were two Red Dwarf pilots made in the US and both were pretty bad.

[Hornball-Uk]

Oh i didnt know there were 2 - i was only aware of the one. Ive seen it, it sucked...

April ya say COOL right in line with my birthday, so lets see if its any good - and hopefully a BIG departure from the Sylvester McCoy farce.

[sintrifuge]

you guys get into jap sci-fi? ultraman, johny socko, spectreman et al?

[Hornball-Uk]

Not me..... ive got a few manga's but i rarely watch them.

[cloudcity]

Curious to know if any of y'all liked Farscape at all. I thought it was very shakey to start with but by the end I was hooked.


Back to Star Wars, some big spoilers released recently about Ep III. And the next trailer will be out on March 11th.

Hmm, why is there never this type of hype for a Trek film?

[Hornball-Uk]

Farscape : Sux .... i got latched to Andromeda though.

why is there never this type of hype for a Trek film?
- Because Trek films are a known quantity, every other film sux......

Evidence:

Film 1: Pretty crap, not similar uniforms, pretty rubbish....
Film 2: ROCKED ... Good Old Montlebaan, space battles, suspense, death, and
the debut of the uniform that would become known as the TWOK suit.
Film 3: Slow... kinda sucked...... rescuing spocks brain.... enterprise blows up.
Film 4: Time Travel YAY !! - Great story, much needed humour injection and a new Ship
Film 5: The search for god.... and a vulcan mind control dude.. sexy but unconvincing
romulan, and a bunch of ppl digging holes in a dust planet.
Film 6: Klingons are back and kickin ass - top visuals, Ace story !!
Film 7: The handover, mad scientist, unknown force destroying shit, Kirk dies.
Film 8: bunch of plagued burnt looking ppl... shit fx, crap story
Film 9: The Borg are back - ASS KICKING Their way into the past.....
Film 10: Good fx, but the clone of picard is unconvincing, data dies.

Film 11: Ds9 / Voyager handover (we think).

[Kathryn]

No I am for Star Trek, I love/know most of the actors, they are really kind and play great! Star Trek had/has so much, for me it shows the way to the future.
But Star Wars is old. I mean I do watch it and like it but ST is better :P

STAR TREK RULEZ !!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D


Yeah a Voyager Film would be damn cool!!!!!!!

[Hornball-Uk]

Yeah, but how could you top the whole Delta Quadrant thing without retreading old ground, or doing another Kirk/Picard type adventure ?

Ship goes into space > Emergency, USS whatever is the only one that can help >> They Go > See mean bad guy > Win ..... Whoopeee safe again.....

Klingons, Borg & Romulan have been done to death - wouldnt mind seeing a Cardassian thing based around the Obsidian Order though.....

[Kathryn]

True, Cardassian around Obsidian Order would be intresting.
yep truth be told I don`t like the way the ST Movies tend. Always to Picard or Kirk in the middle of everything....
The crossover...let me guess. somethings with Generations or so..(Though I know the german title .lol) was quite okay. But Nemesis..well not worth a mention^^
I hope for Voyager. Cause ENT is not that famous....

[Hornball-Uk]

Wow I see ur BDay is April too - Another Aries - COOL !!

[Kathryn]

Wow I see ur BDay is April too - Another Aries - COOL !!


Yes it is :D
And yours , too !!

[Hornball-Uk]

I see ur just across the water from me too ...... ur english is excellent.

[Kathryn]

I see ur just across the water from me too ...... ur english is excellent.

Yes not that far away ;)

wow thank you for the compliment I am always eager to learn. I love this language...don`t tell anyone *whispers* but I do tend to like it more than my own language ;) *GG*

[gdig40]

The original 3 Star Wars were great, especially the X-wing fighters and the light sabers, but my vote would have to go to Star Trek Next Generation, I liked almost everything about it.

[Kathryn]

The original 3 Star Wars were great, especially the X-wing fighters and the light sabers, but my vote would have to go to Star Trek Next Generation, I liked almost everything about it.

Good Choice :thumbsup:

[Hornball-Uk]

Yes not that far away ;)

wow thank you for the compliment I am always eager to learn. I love this language...don`t tell anyone *whispers* but I do tend to like it more than my own language ;) *GG*

Ich Bin !!

Did you ever see StarBallz ? Basicly the manga porn version of Star Wars, you can see pics from it on this google, but the main site is down atm..... ive attached a couple too.
http://images.google.com/images?q=starballz&hl=en&lr=&start=0&sa=N&filter=0

[Hornball-Uk]

PS : ST TNG was my fave also :)

[sintrifuge]

Hey Cloud! looks like ST's inching up on the polls. ;)

yeah the last trailer for Episode III got me all crazy when I saw it. I just know it's gonna be hot! plus the new season of Clone Wars is coming soon too. I fell in love with the first season!

Yeah the ST movies are hit or miss. I'd like the next one to be something other than TNG. a DS9 or Yoyager would definitely be interesting, but who knows if it would be any good.

The rest of this season's Enterprise seems worth watching. Feb has a 2 parter explaining the Klingon discrepency between the way they looked in TOS and the rest of the ST universe. genetic engineering? evolution? hybrids?

[sintrifuge]

her's a wacky concept..... Klingon Sith! had me giggling all morning.

[Hornball-Uk]

"Feb has a 2 parter explaining the Klingon discrepency between the way they looked in TOS and the rest of the ST universe. genetic engineering? evolution? hybrids?"
- To quote Worf : "we dont like to discuss it".

To explain the romulan descrpancy, they created a thing called "The Tomid Incident", dont know anything about the details though.

Clone Wars ? Season 1 ... have i missed something ?

Enterprise : Thoroughly enjoying this show "when its on".... we havent reaches S2 yet in the Uk.

[cloudcity]

Hell yes, Clone Wars was amazing. Season three coming in March/April.

I'm sorry hb but I can't post my opinion of Andromeda, it wouldn't very very polite. Each to their own I guess.

Enterprise season 4 is on Sky in 5/6 weeks, it's meant to be the best yet. And yes they do have some explaining to do.

[Hornball-Uk]

Gonna have to check out the torrents for "clone wars" ... enterprise, upto S4 already !! DAMN !! - Uk is so far behind :( But it was like that with TNG, it was mid 5th season b4 it came on tv here.

[EvilHandyAndy]

By the same token though
the bbc has had many things that we had to wait for
like benny hill and monty python

[puddleduck]

Captain Jim Kerk
was the main man with Spock by his side no probs then we get to lietenant Uhora that skirt done me .
Tractor boy
:smoke:

[sintrifuge]

I agree Andy. there is so much we don't get or we get late. BBC America is okay, but its not enough. :(

[cuddyer]

Stars Wars ... never been a Star Trek fan

[cloudcity]

Just got my tickets in the post this morning for Star Wars Day IX at Honiton.

[Hornball-Uk]

The what day at where ?

E N L I G H T E N M E D U D E !!!

[cloudcity]

The what day at where ?

E N L I G H T E N M E D U D E !!!

I've pm'd you the link.

[Hornball-Uk]

Sweet, a convention - Devon tho :( awww Last decent one i attended was T'Kon in March 94 !! - I did one in 96 just north of Manchester called WARP ONE, but it was held in a disused holiday camp from the 1910's ... and it looke dlike it ..... what a complete doss hole !! crap day all round and not in any way worth the money. Plus, Siddig Al Fadil (as he was then called), ditched mid autograph signing leaving MArina Sirtis to do the lot by her self - what a bastard ..... his queue was a mile long, and he just up and left. Never liked him after that.

[tanstaafl]

Staw wars geek or computer nerd...you decide (cross posted in funniest shit)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8165697700&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

[sintrifuge]

That's fucking HOT!!!!!!! too funny. I've seen the same as a pc mod,but not an xbox mod. hysterical!!!!!

[cloudcity]

As part of my job, I travel the country visiting trade fairs. I recently visited one and managed to sneak into the toy/gift hall.

I think I have seen every Ep III product that is going to be on the market over the next year.From film cells to full size costumes. Us Star Wars fans are in for a great movie and some excellent merchandizing.

[Hornball-Uk]

May the Schwartz be Wid you !

[moonknight31]

i thought any sw fans might wanna see the title crawl from all the movies including revenge of the sith,

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/f20050126/indexp2.html

[Hornball-Uk]

Nice....

Unreadable in Pan & Scan

But Nice !! lol.....

[cloudcity]

Thanks for posting that moon. But if there is a juicy bit of EpIII info I've usually got it early. I'm real sad like that and check about a dozen sites a day for news - i'm addicted to it.

BTW, I have seen a rough edit of the first five minutes and it is f***ing awesome.

[moonknight31]

cool cool, and i kinda figured u had seen it already cc but i thought everyone else might not have

[cloudcity]

Apparently in the US Enterprise has been cancelled with effect from the end of it's current season. Is that true? Don't they know that's when the TV series usually get better, in the third/fourth season. Damn shame if you ask me.

[cloudcity]

Lucasfilm have sent out a sh*tload of fresh warnings to sites posting unauthorised pics and info from Ep III. I made the mistake of checking a few out recently and saw so much of the film most of the surprise will be lost for me. My own fault I guess.

[sintrifuge]

Yeah I'm usually a sucker for spoilers. But I have been mostly good. The trading cards were up somewhere and I heard they basically give away the story, but I was able to discipline myself. saw some great pics of Grievious in action and his sweet ass ride!

[Jessica]

So ya, girlygirl here I want to also put in my 2 cents.
I love start trek and star wars. Altought I do love them both, I still prefer, for movies, the Star WArs. I was extatic when they came out with Episode I and II and soon to be III. But my first love are still the original ones, EP IV, V and VI.
HOw many night have I got to bed dreaming of Luke Skywalker? I did halloween once as Princess Leya, Gawd she was hot. AND to think, this is a huge joke in my family, that my dad fell asleep during StarWars. Yep you read that right, he fell asleep , at the movies, enough to snore and he woke up at the end. My mother was fuming when she heard that, she would of loved to go.

Now don't get me wrong, the new Episodes are amazing, I am not one to go to movies but I sure as hell will go to those when they will come out. I still think that the first ones are the bomb!

And that's the end of my 2 cents!

[Hornball-Uk]

Leya ?

Thats Leia Organa :) - and yes, sadly, Enterprise has been canx'd by the powers that be. Whos got money on there being a reprieve at the last minute like Bab5 ?

Hot news For Star Wars fans though. The Clone Wars cartoon shorts come out on DVD in March, this is set between ep's 2 and 3. And a live action Star Wars tv show spin off looks set to start filming back end of the year - hopefully no more kids lost in forrests with ewoks, or cartoon droids. ** Lets not even MENTION the AWFUL Xmas Specials at the Wookie household **

Ep 3 footage is leeking out all over the place, i saw a feed today showing anakin slaying jedi's at the temple aided by storm troopers... only 20 seconds or so - but enough to make me wet my keyboard in drool.

[sintrifuge]

The new season of Clones Wars starts soon as well!

[cloudcity]

Ep 3 footage is leeking out all over the place, i saw a feed today showing anakin slaying jedi's at the temple aided by storm troopers... only 20 seconds or so - but enough to make me wet my keyboard in drool.


I've seen that bit too, think that might be cut as it's pretty grim for kiddies to see (with the little padawans getting their heads lobbed off). Hope it doesn't though.

[cloudcity]

I did halloween once as Princess Leia, Gawd she was hot.



Nice. Got any pics? (providing you were over 18 by the way)

[cloudcity]

Hobbies of Darth Vader

10) Making prank "heavy breathing" phone calls

9) Sneaking up behind Star Destroyer crew members, covering their eyes, and demanding "Guess who?"

8) Practicing throwing Palpatine doll down pits

7) Genealogy

6) Using the force to learn to juggle

5) Mortal Kombat 5436

4) Using mind-reading ability to win at Battleship

3) Late nights with a pain droid

2) Sending anonymous love-notes to Mon Mothma

1) Checking Imperial Deli to see if they've named a sandwich after him yet

[cloudcity]

Reasons not to join the empire...

10. Stormtroopers are the Empire's first line of defense.

9. All ships and installations are built around a "main reactor."

8. Exhaust ports are big enough for proton torpedoes and always lead to the "main reactor."

7. TIE Fighters have no shields.

6. The Emperor's best troops were defeated by rock and stick wielding teddy bears.

5. Officers over the rank of Lieutenant have a life expectancy of two weeks.

4. Everything proceeds as the Emperor has foreseen.

3. Stormtroopers are picked for their intelligence and common sense.

2. The Emperor allows the alliance to know the location of the shield generator.

1. Bounty Hunters, We don't need their scum!

[Hornball-Uk]

*chuckle*

[sintrifuge]

Bahahahahahaha! did you come up with these lists? hysterical.

btw, biggest pet peeve of ROTJ; "emperor's best troops"

[cloudcity]

biggest pet peeve of ROTJ; "emperor's best troops"


Mine is: No way would you fall for that standing on a trap door in the floor thing.

[Hornball-Uk]

I like the HUGE discrepancy with Luke... he can use the force to great effect, but he cant levitate himself or stop himself falling down the air shaft ?

But best of all, i liked Dave's lines, when i was talking with him he told me what his actual line was - "No .... Obi Wan killed your father"...... facinating stuff......

Try this too...... to the theme tune, dave said it was an injoke among the cast.

"Star Warrrs, made me a fortune, paid of the mortgage, bought me a car......" LOL

[cloudcity]

One day Luke gets fed up with life as a farmer so he goes to see Old Ben the local magician.

Luke: Ben I'm really fed up being a farmer can you turn me into something else?
Ben: Like what?
Luke: Well I guess it would be cool to be a Dewback.
Ben: Ok but only if you're sure.
Luke: I'm sure all right but let me go off and have one last drink as a human.
Luke goes off to have his drink.
Owen and Beru are getting worried so they go and see Old Ben to see if he knows where Luke is.
Owen: Hey Ben have you seen Luke today?
Ben: Yes. he's gone for a drink but he won't be Dewback until later.

[cloudcity]

Yoda and Obi-Wan walked into a bar and bought a 5 dollar drink.

Yoda, seeing that he only had 4 dollars asked Obi-Wan, "Have a dollar do you? A little short I am."

[cloudcity]

You know you're a Redneck Jedi when . . .

Your Jedi robe is a Camouflage color.

You have ever used your Light Saber to open a bottle of Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill

You think the best use of your light saber is picking your teeth.

At least one wing of your X-Wing is primer colored!!!

There is a blaster rack in the back of your landspeeder

You have bantha horns on the front of your landspeeder

You can easily describe the taste of an Ewok

You can find no grammatical errors in the way Yoda talks

You think that Stormtroopers are just KKK members with really good sheets

A peaceful meditation session is one without gas

You can levitate yourself using a force from within, but not THE FORCE

Your master ever said "My finger you will pull..hmmm?"

You have ever had an X-wing up on blocks in your yard.

You ever lost a hand during a light-saber fight because you had tospit.

The worst part of spending time on Dagoba is the dadgum skeeters.

Wookies are offended by your B.O.

You have ever used the force to get yourself another beer so you didn't have to wait for a commercial.

You have ever used the force in conjunction with fishing/bowling.

You have ever used a light-sabre to clean fish or open a non-twist-off bottle of beer.

Your father has ever said to you, "Shoot, son come on over t' the dark side...it'll be a hoot."

You have ever had your R-2 unit use its self-defense electro-shock thingy to get the bar-b-q grill to light.

[cloudcity]

Star Wars Vs. Titanic

Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:33:07 -0500

"21 Reasons Why Star Wars Is Better Than Titanic"

1. The Titanic is big, but it doesn't have hyperdrive.

2. Yoda could use the Force to lift Titanic out of the water.

3. Leia is a princess, a senator, a freedom fighter, and Jedi material; Rose is just marriage bait.

4. Ewoks throw better parties than either first class or steerage.

5. When flying towards the Titanic, Wedge can't say, "Look at the size of that thing!" and really mean it.

6. It would be much scarier to get chased around the boat by a raving madman with a lightsaber as opposed to a handgun.

7. Titanic is egalitarian by portraying poor people as sympathetic characters. Star Wars is egalitarian by promoting bug-eyed amphibians to Admiral.

8. Said bug-eyed amphibious Admiral manages NOT to lose his ship.

9. We know Cal is the bad guy because he sneers at the poor and treats his fiancee like property. We know Darth Vader is the bad guy because he strangles people and blows up planets for fun.

10. Yeah, Leo can dance, but can he fly an X-wing?

11. Rose braves icy water to rescue her man. Leia braves Jabba the Hutt.

12. There are always enough escape pods in Star Wars.

13. Do you know what the Empire does to self-proclaimed "kings of the world?"

14. If Luke were handcuffed to a pipe below decks in a sinking ship, he would use the Force to get the key.

15. Nothing has the same sting as "I'd rather kiss a Wookie."

16. Han is frozen in carbonite and turned into a wall ornament. Leo simply freezes.

17. Han Solo would've steered clear of that stinkin' iceberg!

18. We knew the boat was gonna sink. But who could've anticipated, "Luke....I am your father."?

19. Stormtroopers blast big holes in stupid minor characters; everyone in Titanic was a stupid minor character.

20. When Star Wars was proclaimed coolest movie of all time by half of planet earth, George Lucas did not make a dork of himself at the Oscars.

21. Titanic morals: a. gamble, b. cheat on your husband, c. pose nude for pictures, d. premarital sex is OK if you're infatuated.

Star Wars morals: a. fight evil, b. do good, c. respect all life even if it's ugly and slithers, d. rescue princess, e. save planet.

[cloudcity]

Top 25 Lines in Star Wars that Can Be Improved by Substituting the word "Pants"

1. A tremor in the pants. The last time I felt this was in the presence of my old master.

2. You are unwise to lower your pants.

3. We've got to be able to get some reading on those pants, up or down.

4. She must have hidden the plans in her pants. Send a detachment down to retrieve them. See to it personally Commander.

5. These pants may not look like much, kid, but they've got it where it counts.

6. I find your lack of pants disturbing.

7. These pants contain the ultimate power in the Universe. I suggest we use it.

8. Han will have those pants down. We've got to give him more time!

9. General Veers, prepare your pants for a surface assault.

10. I used to bulls-eye womp-rats in my pants back home.

11. TK-421. . . Why aren't you in your pants?

12. Lock the door. And hope they don't have pants.

13. Governor Tarkin. I recognized your foul pants when I was brought on board.

14. You look strong enough to pull the pants off of a Gundark.

15. Luke. . . Help me take...these pants off.

16. Great, Chewie, great. Always thinking with your pants.

17. That blast came from those pants. That thing's operational!

18. Don't worry. Chewie and I have gotten into a lot of pants more heavily guarded than this.

19. Maybe you'd like it back in your pants, your highness.

20. Your pants betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially one. Your sister!

21. Jabba doesn't have time for smugglers who drop their pants at the first sign of an Imperial Cruiser.

22. Yeah, well short pants is better than no pants at all, Chewie.

23. Attention. This is Lando Calrissean. The Empire has taken control of my pants, I advise everyone to leave before more troops arrive.

24. I cannot teach him. The boy has no pants.

25. You came in those pants? You're braver than I thought.

[cloudcity]

Top Ten Reasons Why Star Wars is Better than Star Trek

10. In the Star Wars Universe weapons are rarely, if ever, set on "stun".

9. The Enterprise needs a huge engine room with an anti-matter unit and a crew of 20 just to go into warp -- The Millannium Falcon does the same thing with R2-D2 and a wookie.

8. After resisting the Imperial torture droid and Darth Vader, Princess Leia still looked fresh -- After pithy Cardassian starvation torture, Picard looked like hell.

7. One word: Lightsaber

6. Darth Vader could choke the entire Borg empire withone glance

5. The Death Star doesn't care if a world is "M" class or not.

4. Luke Skywalker is not obsessed with sleeping with every alien he encounters

3. Jabba the Hutt would eat Harry Mudd for trying to cut in on his action.

2. The Federation would have to attempt to liberate any ship named "Slave I"

1. Picard pilots the Enterprise through asteroid belts at one-quarter impulse power --- Han Solo floors it.

[cloudcity]

Sung to the tune of "Copacabana":

Her name was Leia
She was a princess
With a danish on each ear
And Darth Vader drawing near
So R2-D2 found Ben Kenobi
He'd have to put the Death Star plans
Into the rebels' hands
So Luke and Obi Wan
Had to go to Alderaan
They made a stop at port Mos Eisley
To have a drink with Han



At the Star Wars, Star Wars Cantina
The weirdest creatures you've ever seena (here)
At the Star Wars, Star Wars Cantina
Music and blasters and old Jedi Masters at the Star Wars.....



His name was Solo
He was a pilot
With a blaster at his side
And a smile 12 parsecs wide
There with Chewbacca
He was a Wookiee
They met with Luke and Obi Wan
About the Millennium Fal-con
Docking bay 94
Storm troopers at the door
With the flash of Ben's Lightsaber
There was an arm on the floor



At the Star Wars, Star Wars Cantina
The weirdest creatures you've ever seena (here)
At the Star Wars, Star Wars Cantina
Music and blasters and old Jedi Masters at the Star Wars.....



(Spoken by Obi Wan while Copa bridge is played)
"Mos Eisley space port, you will never find a more wretched
hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."



His name was Yoda
He was a muppet
That old Darth Vader was so bad
And by the way he is Luke's dad
Luke kissed his sister
His hand got severed
In a galaxy far, far, away
Luke has had a lousy day
Bo-ba Fett was so mean
Jabba had bad hygiene
Why didn't they all just relax
Back on Ta-too-ine



At the Star Wars, Star Wars Cantina
The weirdest creatures you've ever seena (here)
At the Star Wars, Star Wars Cantina
Music and blasters and old Jedi Masters at the Star Wars......

[cloudcity]

Y.O.D.A
Sung To the Village People's Y.M.C.A
Copyright Steven Cavanagh 1993

(As sung by master Yoda, on meeting Luke Skywalker).

YOUNG MAN, I saw your ship come down. I said
YOUNG MAN, now it's muddy and brown. I said
YOUNG MAN, put your weapon away, 'cause I
*MEAN* *YOU* *NO* *HARM* *I* *SAY*
YOUNG MAN, There's no need to feel fear. I am
WONDERIN', tell me why are you here? How you
GROWIN', from this food on your plate, I say
*WARS* *DO* *NOT* *MAKE* *ONE* *GREAT*


You must be here to see Y.O.D.A
You must be here to see Y.O.D.A.
He's 900 years old!
He's so strong in the Force!
Do your Jedi Diploma course!


You must be here to see Y.O.D.A
You must be here to see Y.O.D.A
Come and get yourself clean!
Come and have a good meal!
Pretty soon now, the Force you'll feel!


YOUNG MAN, you fell out of the sky, into
SOMETHIN' brown that smells like a sty, and this
TIN CAN started swimming and then, he got
*SPAT* *OUT* *LIKE* *SOME* *THROAT* *PHLEGM*
YOUNG MAN, Welcome to Dagobah. He is
COMIN', master Yoda not far. I'll be
HAVIN' this bright thing that ain't hot. It is
*MINE* *OR* *I'LL* *HELP* *YOU* *NOT*


You must be here to see Y.O.D.A
You must be here to see Y.O.D.A.
He's 900 years old!
He's so strong in the Force!
Do your Jedi Diploma course!


You must be here to see Y.O.D.A
You must be here to see Y.O.D.A
Don't just stand in the rain!
You're all covered with mud!
come and sample my homemade crud!


OLD BEN, Are you listenin' to me? I can't
TRAIN HIM, he's so reckless you see! Like his
OLD MAN, he's so angry but brave! Betcha
*HE* *SCREWS* *UP* *AT* *THE* *CAVE*
YOUNG MAN, If you start will you end, or be
GOING, off to save all your friends? To be
TRAINING, needs commitment and work, if you
*WIMP* *OUT* *THEN* *YOU'RE* *A* *JERK*


You gotta stay here with Y.O.D.A
You gotta stay here with Y.O.D.A
You should stay here and train!
You don't have to save Han!
If you do so, you'll lose your hand!


You gotta stay here with Y.O.D.A.
(repeat and fade).

[cloudcity]

Imperial Rhapsody
(sung to Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody)

LANDO: This is the good life
This is a fantasy
Working on Bespin
An escape from Reality.
LEIA: Open your eyes
Stand up to these guys and see.
LUKE: I'm just a farmboy, I need some sympathy
Cuz who's my dad, I dunno
Little whine, little moan.
HAN: Anywhere the Force goes, doesn't really matter, to me


PIETT: Vader just killed a man.
Raised an arm up in the air
Now his life is no longer there.
Vader, we had just begun,
And now I've gone and lost the reb-el scum.
Vader, ooooooo.
Didn't mean to make you mad
If I'm not alive again this time tomorrow,
There'll be a new admiral, as if nothing ever happened.


YODA: Too late, my time has come,
Sends shivers down my spine
Body's aching all the time.
LUKE: Goodbye everybody, I've got to go
Gotta leave you all behind and learn the Force.
PIETT: Vader, ooooooooo.
I don't want to die
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all.


LUKE: I see a little silhouetto of a man
Palpatine, Palpatine, can it be the Emperor?
Thunderbolts and lightning, very very hurting me!
R2-D2, R2-D2,
R2-D2, R2-D2,
R2-D2, Where'd ya go? C-3PO O O O O O OH!
I'm just a farmboy, nobody loves me.
REBELS: He's just a farmboy, with a dead family.
Spare him this life of such mendacity!
HAN: Spice'll come, spice'll go. Jabba let me go.
JABBA: Bo shuda! (NO, we will not let you go)
HAN: Let me go!
JABBA: Bo shuda! (We will not let you go)
HAN: Let me go!
JABBA: Bo shuda! (We will not let you go)
HAN: LET ME GO!
JABBA: WILL NOT LET YOU GO!
HAN: LET ME GO!
JABBA: WILL NOT LET YOU GO!
HAN: LET ME GO!
JABBA: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!


C3PO: Oh R2-D2, R2-D2, R2-D2, Come along.
LEIA: C-3PO has a rebel put aside for meeeee, for meeeeee,
for MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!


(Stormtroopers start headbanging)


LUKE: So you say you're the dear old dad of mine?
But you cut my hand off and left me to die!
Oh Vader, can't do this to me, Vader.
I know there's some good, I know there's still some good in you.


OBIWAN: May the Force be with you.
Use the Force to see.
May the Force be with you,
May the Force be with you, alwaaaaaaaaaaaaays.


HAN: Anywhere the Force goes, doesn't really mat-ter,
to meeeeeeee.

[cloudcity]

Top Ten Signs You're a True Star Wars Fan

10. When arguing Star Wars against Star Trek, you use the words 'Star Trek Sissy Boys' at least 15 times.

9. You believe President Clinton should increase its budget. (I'm sorry, wrong Star Wars!)

8. At a Star Wars collectibles convention, you purchase Gammorean Guard saliva.

7. You waste your time writing Star Wars Top Ten lists. (No comment)

6. You foolishly believe that Lucas will ACTUALLY make more Star Wars movies, when you know he's just saying that so people will buy the new Star Wars merchandise and books, then in a year he'll give his famous 'I don't feel like it' speech.

5. You would feed yourself to the rancor if it meant finding out the name of Anakin's wife.

4. You'd actually want a copy of that lousy Star Wars holiday special.

3. You stick up for Mark Hamill even when you know he's a bad actor.

2. You shell out 10 bucks for a magazine that describes the planet Tatooine.

1. You have recurring nightmares about Episodes 1-3 being about a dysfunctional family of Ewoks.

[Hornball-Uk]

"4. You'd actually want a copy of that lousy Star Wars holiday special."
- Had it, Watched It - Deleted it ... lol Chewies Wookie Family Christmas Special .... PHULEEAASSSSSEEE !! lol ....

"3. You stick up for Mark Hamill even when you know he's a bad actor."

*Cough*

:finger:

[cloudcity]

Love this.

[cloudcity]

"4. You'd actually want a copy of that lousy Star Wars holiday special."
- Had it, Watched It - Deleted it ... lol Chewies Wookie Family Christmas Special .... PHULEEAASSSSSEEE !! lol ....


Not as funny as Geordie Star Wars.

[sintrifuge]

OH MY FUCKING GOD!

I can't catch my breath. I can barely see the screen, my eyes are watering so much from laughing so hard! you rock!

[cloudcity]

Thank you, thank you. I'm here till Thursday.

[Hornball-Uk]

*Cough* Mark Hamill *Cough* :D

[cloudcity]

Just seen the next Episode III trailer . . .



it it sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

[SSBF]

OMG Cloud! Hun...we gotta talk....I think I know of something we can do to take up what is obviously too much time on your hands! But all too funny!

[cloudcity]

OMG Cloud! Hun...we gotta talk....I think I know of something we can do to take up what is obviously too much time on your hands! But all too funny!



It's a date.

[cloudcity]

For you Trek fans, check out my classis caption thread this week.

Laughter is futile (http://forum.pichunter.com/showthread.php?p=97675#post97675)

[deeprising]

I know this is way off topic but I couldn't resist. It's a question that has plagued mankind for over a quarter of a century.


So which is best and why?


Also, if you have anything to say on either of these two then here is the place.


.the next genearation why cause there were better actors and there was qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq..

[cloudcity]

Oh yes, Q was one of the best additions to the ST universe.

[deeprising]

Oh yes, Q was one of the best additions to the ST universe.i like the espoide with q and the cyborgs.....showing picard this is going to happen to u

[cloudcity]

Any episode with either Q or the Borg were 100 times more entertaining than the rest.

[cloudcity]

Last week my caption was trek related, so I just had to make this weeks better. Check it out and come up with a line.


"These aren't the droids we're looking for" (http://forum.pichunter.com/showpost.php?p=99974&postcount=433)

[cloudcity]

Another reason not to join the Empire.

[cloudcity]

Hey there everybody.

I've done my bit, finding all those Star Wars funnies. Anyone else is welcome to do the same with any Trek stuff they can find.

[Hornball-Uk]

How about this Kirk mask. kinda looks like Bush mixed with a bit of Reagan lol

http://home.t-online.de/home/halloweenshop-/kirk.jpg

[cloudcity]

Top 10 Signs You've Watched Too Much Star Trek:

10) You send weekly love letters to the actress who played the Green Skinned Orion Slave Girl in episode number 7.

9) You pull the legs off your hamster so you'll have a tribble.

8) You tried to join the Navy just so you could serve aboard the Enterprise.

7) Your wife left you because you wanted her to dress like a Klingon and torture you for information.

6) You went to San Francisco to see if you might bump into Kirk and crew while they were in the 20th Century looking for a whale.

5) Your college thesis was a Comparison of the Illustrious Careers of T.J. Hooker and Captain Kirk.

4) You fly into a homicidal rage anytime people say "Star Trek? Isn't that the one with Luke Skywalker?"

3) You have no life.

2) You recognize more than 4 references on this list.

1) You join NASA, hijack a shuttle, and head for the coordinates you calculated for the planet Vulcan.

[deeprising]

i think the new star trek sucks cause there no good actors plus they should of stoped after the next generation..cyborgwere cool my favorite one was data..shit he died in the last movie which sucked.....and return of the jedi was the best star wars movie :grin:

[Hornball-Uk]

WTF u on about - Enterprise ROCKS !! lol - i love the Tucker/Malcolm thing and the Tucker/Vulcan (LETS SHAG) thing... how CAN he possibly resist !!! I know I wouldnt lol

[cloudcity]

Episode 2 of the first season of Enterprise:

Jolene (ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm) Blalock and Scott Bakula in a steam room rubbing each other up and down.

I rest my case.

[Hornball-Uk]

Never got that between Spock n Kirk now did we ;) ugh ? not even with Janice Rand lol

[cloudcity]

51 days to go . . .

[Hornball-Uk]

I just got the Clone Wars cartoon..... ITS AWESOME !! Bit of a spoiler though if youre holding out for Ep3

[deeprising]

darth vader will return soon in his prime watch out....lol :smoke:

[cloudcity]

I just got the Clone Wars cartoon..... ITS AWESOME !! Bit of a spoiler though if youre holding out for Ep3


Is that volume 1 or 2? Because 2 kicks ass.

[cloudcity]

What did I find in my e-mail inbox today?

The complete rundown of Ep III from someone whose seen it.

Did I read it all?

Yes I did.

Will it spoil seeing the movie?

Probably.

Does it rock?

too f**king right it does.

[deeprising]

What did I find in my e-mail inbox today?

The complete rundown of Ep III from someone whose seen it.

Did I read it all?

Yes I did.

Will it spoil seeing the movie?

Probably.

Does it rock?

too f**king right it does.some one told u about the movie that sucks...retun of the jedi and star wars 3 will be the best of them all

[cloudcity]

A lot of EpIII merchandise is now on sale, and yes I have already bought loads of it. but be careful folks, lot's of spoliers to be found so be careful.



Plus, The first draft of the new Star Trek movie has been greenlighted. Apparently it takes place 100 years before the Kirk era and will feature a cast of unknowns in a completely new story.

Sorry, but if Enterprise flopped then isn't this going to also?

[cloudcity]

With all the talk of Star Wars re-released in 3D, here's some secret plans for the next 50 years...

2014: "The Empire Strikes Back" is re-released with all footage of Harrison Ford as Han Solo digitally removed. This necessitates certain plot changes. For example, instead of Han Solo being frozen, the film's climax has Darth Vader filling up an ice-cube tray.

2015: To ensure the films remain packed with the most state-of-the-art technology, all six "Star Wars" movies are re-released with new scenes featuring C-3PO bickering with the Sharper Image Faux Suede OttoMan 2.0 Human-Touch Calf and Foot Massager.

2017: "Star Wars" is re-released in an environmentally friendly version: The gas-guzzling Millennium Falcon is replaced by a Toyota hybrid Prius, the locale of the trash-compactor scene is changed to a recycling center, and the legion of Storm Troopers are replaced by college kids with clipboards badgering people to give money to Greenpeace.

2018: After breaking into Mike Nichols' home, Lucas re-releases "Attack of the Clones" incorporating the nude footage of Natalie Portman cut from "Closer."

2019: Peeved that "Titanic" is still the top-grossing movie of all time, Lucas replaces John Williams' "Star Wars" score with a continuous loop of Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On."

2021: Deciding to have Yoda reject the concept of the Force in favor of Kabbalah in "Attack of the Clones," Lucas digitally adds a red-string bracelet to the Jedi master's left wrist.

2025: He hardly cares what you think now, and he'll care even less in 2025: Lucas re-releases "Return of the Jedi" with every character dressed in the bikini Princess Leia wore at Jabba the Hut's place. Including Jabba.

2030: "The Empire Strikes Back" is re-released 100 percent in its original form, with the exception of a one-second scene featuring 350 new characters standing around in an intergalactic tavern chatting idly. (Action figures available from Hasbro.)

2032: Worried that people now view the kiss on the lips in "Stars Wars" between siblings Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker as incestuous, Lucas digitally inserts himself in Luke's place.

2034: Concerned that the quality of the acting wasn't quite how he'd initially envisioned it in the first trilogy, Lucas re-releases "Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" with Mark Hamill replaced by Jared from the Subway commercials.

2037: To booster his claim that he's an independent filmmaker, Lucas re-releases "Return of the Jedi" with a new 30-minute subplot of Han Solo and Chewbacca tasting wine, meeting women and enjoying each other's company on a trip through the Santa Barbara wine country.

2041: While denying he's privy to any percentage of the merchandising profits, Lucas re-releases "The Empire Strikes Back" featuring a scene of Boba Fett announcing he's quitting the bounty hunter life and then whipping up a batch of Hasbro Easy-Bake My Little Pony cookies.

2048: Thanks to new holographic technology, "The Phantom Menace," "Attack of the Clones" and "Revenge of the Sith" are re-released in versions that allow Jar-Jar Binks to sit next to theatergoers and talk over all the scenes he's not in.

2055: The 111-year-old Lucas, realizing that all special-effects, 3-D and actors of any sort have diluted his original vision, re-releases "Star Wars" now simply featuring himself shouting out random lines from the script as he's fitted for a straightjacket.

Cool stuff... all courtesy of E Taiwan News!

[cloudcity]

If anyone out there is lucky enough to be attending the Celebration III event this month then please let us know. Post a report of it here if you can.


Unfortunately I can't afford to travel the 4000 miles to get there, I just have to make do with the naff ones we have here in the UK.

[moonknight31]

anybody gonna stand in line days in advance for episode 3?

[cloudcity]

anybody gonna stand in line days in advance for episode 3?


I would do if I was around for the first day's midnught showing, but I will in the middle of the Med by then.

I'll also miss the double trilogy day on Mon 16th in London, (that's all six films shown in one day)

And i bet I won't be able to make it to Cannes for the Official Premiere on the 11th.

Damn and double damn.

[deeprising]

luke i am your father.......

[cloudcity]

3 weeks and 2 days to go and counting.

[deeprising]

we dont like there kind in here......riseeee vader :grin:

[cloudcity]

This post is not spam, and had been authorised by the Pichunter staff and Admin.


Hi everyone.

This is a special request to any Star Wars fans who are living in the UK.

I am a member of a specialist site called The Private Universe. It's aim, is to inform UK based collectors of Star wars merchandise, collectables and toys.

It is run very informally and everyone can take part in it's goal. This month, we are running a competition called the Mad May Giveaway. We wish to find more members for our forum, as we currently only have about 70.

For any member who joins, and posts at least messages, get an entry into a multiple prize draw to win Star Wars goodies. I also get an extra entry for new member I recruit, (I know it's shameless isn't it) all you have to do is say "cloudcity sent me"

But please remember, it is not an adult forum like Pichunter.

It is a great little forum and news desk, one which I am proud to be part of. Very much like Pichunter only on a much smaller scale. All I ask is, if the terms apply to you, pop on over and have a look around - you might like it.

Thank you very much and please enjoy yourselves.


The Main Site (http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk/)


The Cantina (http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk/forum/index.php)

[cloudcity]

If anyone is interested in taken up this offer, please pm me to let me know you have.


Thank you.

[cloudcity]

Can anybody lend me $85,000.00?


Where the hell am I gonna park that thing? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=99975&item=6526951008&rd=1)

[tanstaafl]

For the star wars fans

offsite link
http://www.channel4.com/film/chatvotewin/microsites/F/forceometer/
I scored a 2 - Darth Maul

[cloudcity]

I scored five, (Princess Leia).


thanks for that Tans.

My favourite question:

What do the voices in your head tell you?
a) to feel the force
b) to feel up the person next to you on the bus

[MAXIMUMCARNAGE]

Star Wars Darth Maul/Darth Vader Coolest characters ever

[michaelwytt]

i like star trek its cool the new one is good too and tupall is hott

[candmf2005]

Wars is better, hands down.

Star Wars is a fantasy tale, while trek is more hard core sci fi. Wars is alot more accessable to the audience, and tells a story that just about anyone can relate to and enjoy. Good vs. evil, man vs. machine, the role of faith in ones life, romance, Wars has it all.

Not to mention, Yoda is better looking at 900 + years old than William Shatner is at 60 +. I still dont know how the old capt. got all that alien pussy.

[cloudcity]

Well said camdf

[candmf2005]

Went to Midnight show with all the crazed hardcore fans. This film is DARK!!! I am very happy with it though. Anakin's fall to the dark side, is done in a way, that makes you feel more like he is the victim in a very tragic way. I think seeing this, you may feel different about the original trilogy, giving you a feel for why he is somehow redeemable in the end (always found that hard to swallow in Return of the Jedi, guy does one unselfish thing at the end, and all his murderous ways are forgiven). Now though, you can understand, its really like Anakin is the victim in the whole thing, I wont say how for those planning to see, but it is a truly brilliant piece of film making.

That being said though, it is very, very, dark, don't expect a light romp light episode I and II were. III is much darker then the Empire Strikes Back even, and that film ends on a very dark note as we all know. Revenge of the Sith is probably the second best chapter in the entire six part series, I still love Empire, and consider it the best single film ever made, but Sith is darn close.

[hippychrome]

Ahhh, remember my mum taking me to see the 1st startrek motion piccy at the cinema when I was a kid + when it was 1st released, bubblegum machines outside and after the 1st small movie buying icecream etc from the lady that walked down the isles ha ha. ( How OLD am I ha ha ha ). Liked the King Cone icecreams lol.

[hippychrome]

Mind U, in roughly the same year I went with mates to see Alien in a working mans club :). I like the 3 original Starwars + loved the arcade game, but hate the rest with all my being ROTFL . As for startrek, not too keen on the original anymore, Next Gen not too bad, like Voyager a lot + Enterprise I like too :).

[hippychrome]

Ha ha ha Sounds about right. Will have to see the new Starwars though to see if its improved :)

[RedDragon16]

Star Wars episode 3 is awesome!!!!

[candmf2005]

I have seen Revenge of the Sith three times now!!! I cant get enough, Hope the DVD is not too far off, should make a fantastic disk. Could you imagine doing all six films in a row, on a rainy day, how cool would that be!!!

I know, Im a geek, cant help it....

[cloudcity]

That's right folks, I've seen it three times too. Glad everyone liked it, and really pleased that SW has gained more votes on the poll.

[candmf2005]

That's right folks, I've seen it three times too. Glad everyone liked it, and really pleased that SW has gained more votes on the poll.

"spoiler alert" "SPOILER ALERT" If you have not seen episode III.



I saw it again with my wife yeasterday, she came up with a realy interesting idea that I had not thought of. Think its possible that this Darth Plagous the Wise that that Palpentine speaks of, think it is possible that he is Anakin's creator? This maybe its even possible that Sidious was his appretice and he murdered him, mabye out of jealously because his master was creating a future evil side kick for himself? Its ambigous weather or not the "legend" he tells Anakin is true, or a lie. My wife's train of thought is very interesting though, if he could create life, and Anakin was a virgin birth, its seems likely.

[cloudcity]

That was in the script originally, that Plageus (sp?) and Sidious created Anakin. But Lucas dropped the idea at the last minute and softened the suggestion a bit.

[candmf2005]

That was in the script originally, that Plageus (sp?) and Sidious created Anakin. But Lucas dropped the idea at the last minute and softened the suggestion a bit.

I think its meant for debat, I looked on www.theforce.net message boards, and its like a 40 page thread, LOL.

To think I saw it four times, and had not even considered the possibility until my wife said something,

As Yoda says, you must unlearn what you have learned.

[cloudcity]

As Yoda says, you must unlearn what you have learned.


Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.

[candmf2005]

Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.

I dont belive it!!

That is why you fail.

Fantastic film, I wish they would have thought of some better lines for Yoda in the prequal trilogy, Empire just has the best dialoge of the six films by far.

[UncleFester]

one word....NERDS!!!! this should go under the nerd forum :P

[candmf2005]

one word....NERDS!!!! this should go under the nerd forum :P

Ha Ha, someone with a Uncle Fester avitar is calling us nerds!! LOL... Now thats funny.

[cloudcity]

Star Wars still remains ten points clear of Dull Trek. And rightly so.

[hippychrome]

Oh yeah, Well lets see if that puny lot in Star Wars could take on a Full scale borg invasion lol :p . They'd ALL be drones he he :p

[cloudcity]

Oh yeah, Well lets see if that puny lot in Star Wars could take on a Full scale borg invasion lol :p . They'd ALL be drones he he :p


engage nerd mode - nerd mode engaged.

1. The Falcon could outrun a cube easily.

2. Borg sphere vs a Death Star - result: lots of borg debris.

3. Borg shielding vs a lightsabre - result: hot butterknife anyone?


I could go on. I'm sad, not f**king sad.

[candmf2005]

engage nerd mode - nerd mode engaged.

1. The Falcon could outrun a cube easily.

2. Borg sphere vs a Death Star - result: lots of borg debris.

3. Borg shielding vs a lightsabre - result: hot butterknife anyone?


I could go on. I'm sad, not f**king sad.

Not to mention Chewie could just rip their arms out of their sockets...LOL

[cloudcity]

Sad news for sci-fi fans today.


Star Trek's Scotty dies aged 85

Doohan died from Alzheimer's Disease and pneumonia
Actor James Doohan, who played the chief engineer Montgomery Scott in Star Trek, has died at the age of 85.

Doohan, whose role was immortalised in the line "Beam me up, Scotty", had been suffering from pneumonia and Alzheimer's disease, his agent said.

[cloudcity]

I know there are plenty of geeks out there saddened by today's news, so here's something lighthearted to cheer us all up.


That's no moon . . . (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789263206)


Make sure you read all of the submitted questions, I dare ya' not to giggle.

[sexysensual696]

RIP scotty!

[candmf2005]

I know there are plenty of geeks out there saddened by today's news, so here's something lighthearted to cheer us all up.


That's no moon . . . (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789263206)


Make sure you read all of the submitted questions, I dare ya' not to giggle.


Thanks Cloud, thats amazing, if you dont mind, I gotta forward that to G4 in the states, for the regular "it came from ebay" segment. Its awsome.

If I kind of want it, am I a geek, LOL....

[cloudcity]

We're up to 62% for Star Wars, and quite rightly.

[hippychrome]

Try all these d'loads :) . http://www.spacebattles.com/movies.php?offset=18 B5 Rokks :p

[hippychrome]

And yeah, I caught the news on news 24 when they released about scotty, a loss.

[hippychrome]

B.T.W, there is more here too of this stuff :) http://www.spacebattles.com/moviedir.php

[sintrifuge]

Hmmmm. what can we do to get more Trekkies here? and ya know there haven't been any flame wars here on this topic. I think we're all being too civil. damned lightsabers. star wars sucks ass!!!!!! Spock uses jedimasters as cum rags! metaclurians have nothing on dilithium crystals! jeez I'm delirious, lol.

[cloudcity]

I'll set my Death star on you Sin.

[sintrifuge]

Eeeeeeeek! run away! run away!

it's only a model!

okay try this one on for size, do you think Mr.Spock would be affected by Jedi mind tricks?

Obi wan: "These aren't the tribbles your looking for. move along."
Mr.Spock: "Fascinating."

[hippychrome]

Add B5 lol, Startrek AND your pathetik starwars deathstar sukks, D'load them all and esp Alpha 5 where DS9 sukks arse he he :P .

Consider this my 1st fun flame lol, ( My personal birthday treat for myself for 1 post lol ;) ) .

And as for mind power, try B5 telepaths :p . ( Hey, even 'Bester' was from 'Star Trek' lol :) )

B6 RULES he he :p ( YES, B6 lol )

[hippychrome]

B5, B6 and Battlestar Galactica RULES :p

[candmf2005]

[QUOTE=sintrifuge] Spock uses jedimasters as cum rags!

Sintrifuge,

I just need to thank you for the laugh. When I read that, I allmost fell out of my seat laughing. Lets just say it paints a very funny picture.

[cloudcity]

B6 RULES he he :p ( YES, B6 lol )


B6 ???

[hippychrome]

Yup.. B6 he he. D'load the movie file Alpha 5 ;) . You're in fer a treat hehe :) .

[hippychrome]

B5,B6, Star Wars inc DS9 etc, Battlestar Galactica, Starwars and a load lol. Get the space battle d'loads lol :)

[hippychrome]

If you have trouble with the site try looking on file sharing sites :) . They are well worth seeing :)

[pornking75]

I am a fan of both, so I am going to be one of those people..Trek was definatly out before wars. However trek did some creative liscensing from old sci fi movies. If u ever watch forbidden planet you will know what I am talking about. It is very trek like. However Lucas took some things and ideas from trek that inspired him to do wars. Without the success of trek from it's fans keeping it alive the public would not have gotten on board with star wars. ILM came out of star wars which ironically enough has done most treks sfx. I will admit that trek has gotten a little rehashed over the years, and will never be as good as Star Trek and the first six movies. Lucas did a wonderful job with the prequals, after I saw sith and everything came together I was like wow, but I do wish that he was able to make them in order from the beginning. I will say that one cannot exist without the other paving the way for certain aspects of each series, movie, or whatever..Sorry for the length just a fan of both franchises

[NormanBates75]

Formerly pornking75....I will be using this name from now on

[candmf2005]

I am a fan of both, so I am going to be one of those people..Trek was definatly out before wars. However trek did some creative liscensing from old sci fi movies. If u ever watch forbidden planet you will know what I am talking about. It is very trek like. However Lucas took some things and ideas from trek that inspired him to do wars. Without the success of trek from it's fans keeping it alive the public would not have gotten on board with star wars. ILM came out of star wars which ironically enough has done most treks sfx. I will admit that trek has gotten a little rehashed over the years, and will never be as good as Star Trek and the first six movies. Lucas did a wonderful job with the prequals, after I saw sith and everything came together I was like wow, but I do wish that he was able to make them in order from the beginning. I will say that one cannot exist without the other paving the way for certain aspects of each series, movie, or whatever..Sorry for the length just a fan of both franchises

Know whats funny though, Lost in Space as lame as it is was a bigger commercial success then Trek at the time. Trek was only on for three seasons, and each year was fighting for renewal with the network. Trek grew fans over the years with sindication, but honestly, it was not a huge hit out of the gate.

Also, I think Trek and Wars are so very two differnt animals. Neither one is realy much like the other IMHO.

[NormanBates75]

I know that trek was not a huge success with the networks or with the fans at first. I will agree with u, they are very different, I was just saying that wars benifited from trek making sci fi popular by the mid 70's and trek benifited in movies and later series because ILM came out of star wars. I did not know however that lost in space was bigger commercialy than trek

[jay19]

yes i must agree with him

[cloudcity]

It seems SW has kept it's lead over ST. Instead of bickering over the two, what about your favourite movies or episodes?

[cloudcity]

Good job toad.

[NormanBates75]

Star Wars favorite movie used to be Empire, however Sith is in a close #2. Then again after seeing all of them I think that they are best looked at as a complete story and not one episode at a time...although any episode holds up pretty good on it's own.

As far as trek goes I am a fan of the original series...I like the other spinoffs but TOS is the best in my opinion by far...my favorite movies have to be 6 and 1. Since 2, 3, and 4 is a continueing story u cannot say one without the other 2.

[cloudcity]

I kinda agree NormanB, seen as a whole even The Phantom Menace makes sense - it actually is much more enjoyable.


Trek movies:

The second have of 2 is good. I like the flow of 3, especially the self destruct bit. I find 4 & 5 appalling. 6 mediocre.

7 was not bad, great battles. 8 leads the lotby a mile for me, the first twenty minutes is stunning. 9 was like an average episode of TNG and 10 was close behind 8.

[rob_21_31]

I kinda agree NormanB, seen as a whole even The Phantom Menace makes sense - it actually is much more enjoyable.


Trek movies:

The second have of 2 is good. I like the flow of 3, especially the self destruct bit. I find 4 & 5 appalling. 6 mediocre.

7 was not bad, great battles. 8 leads the lotby a mile for me, the first twenty minutes is stunning. 9 was like an average episode of TNG and 10 was close behind 8.

Was 3 the Wrath of Kahn? That was my fave